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Stealinator 02-20-2010 08:53 AM

Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Anyone have one of these stuffed in a BOB? Thinking about putting it on my 'keep an eye out for/wish list'


Irons 02-20-2010 10:32 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Here you go, NIB :36_1_11:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=158296428

fl57caveman 02-20-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
if this is the one i am thinking of, everything fits inside of the stock, and it floats...

nice.

RJB 02-20-2010 11:33 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
It's a $200 rifle. Not the best, nor the most rugged, but I can smuggle it into the woods if needed and pick off a squirrel at 40 yards.

Some of the older models had a tendency to jam, but the newer models fixed this problem.

Mtscout 02-20-2010 05:15 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Recently decided on a new 22LR, and choose a CZ 452.

http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-4...raining-rifle/

It a not compact, but more full size and very accurate.
One ragged hole at 50 yards!
The neat thing is that it will shoot 'shorts', accurately and very quietly.
For $400 it is worth every penny.
My 2 cents.

Ag_man 02-20-2010 06:12 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
I've read the typical gun reviews that these were pretty much junk. I have no verification of this. I remember that an AR-7 was featured in the movie "Rage" with George C. Scott, using one to take out some soldiers. Must have been head shots!

Horn 02-20-2010 06:18 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fl57caveman (Post 2190214)
if this is the one i am thinking of, everything fits inside of the stock, and it floats...

nice.

Wonder if I could put it in my check in luggage at the airport?:thinkey:

Stealinator 02-20-2010 06:30 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Im kind of like thinking along the lines of being so compact and easy to store. Sort of a check out at the range, clean and put in preps, only to be used if needed.

Anyone ever SELL on gunbroker ? Is it complicated? have a couple handfulls of small revolvers , not my prefered gun ( hand me downs from reletives deceased in Texas) I know at a gunshow, will not get much, was wondering how this site is ( yeah, I know, can spend the time researching, figured would ask here first)

drafter 02-20-2010 06:30 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Ive got one of the older Charter Arms AR-7s made in the mid 80s. Never had any trouble with it and its pretty accurate for what it is. It definitely no Ruger 10/22 but I don't expect it to be.

GOLD DUCK 02-20-2010 06:43 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
QWAK,I got one of the old AR-7s and got a colapsing stock and barrel cover that makes it LOOK like a bad ass SPY WEAPON -- also got 4 25 round mags for it. :23_30_104:

It is OK I guess but ocasionaly does not EJECT properly and james. :mad_m:

My 10/22 in stainless is WAY better and has NEVER JAMED.

the DUCK

Ag_man 02-20-2010 06:50 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 2190679)
Anyone ever SELL on gunbroker ? Is it complicated? have a couple handfulls of small revolvers , not my prefered gun ( hand me downs from reletives deceased in Texas) I know at a gunshow, will not get much, was wondering how this site is ( yeah, I know, can spend the time researching, figured would ask here first)

I'm more interested in buying stories from Gunbroker. Now that I have a new firearms dealer that doesn't cry a river about FFL transfers, I would consider doing a Gunbroker deal. I'm doing my first FFL transfer buy from SARCO (if they ever ship the damn thing!).

wildcard 02-20-2010 10:39 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
The Marlin Papoose breaks down almost as small and it gets great reviews.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/marlin_70pss.jpg


Ag_man 02-20-2010 10:44 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 2191008)
The Marlin Papoose breaks down almost as small and it gets great reviews.

Does Marlin still make these? I've read about them and yes, they do get a much better review than the Henry or the AR-7.

wildcard 02-20-2010 10:48 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Well, I don't know. Marlin still has them on their website so I'm assuming they can still be purchased new.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ding/70PSS.asp

<SLV> 02-20-2010 11:09 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Hold one first. Note the plastic barrel. Then take a look at the Marlin Papoose. If you can find one, get a Springfield M6 22LR/.410 survival gun. It is the gun I most regret selling.

etheostoma 02-21-2010 12:27 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2191051)
Hold one first. Note the plastic barrel. Then take a look at the Marlin Papoose. If you can find one, get a Springfield M6 22LR/.410 survival gun. It is the gun I most regret selling.

Pretty cool! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Sea...springfield+m6

<SLV> 02-21-2010 01:49 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etheostoma (Post 2191170)

I had a stainless one. It was just plain neato. Incredibly simple -- easy to operate, easy to break down. Stores ammo in the buttstock for both calibers. I DON'T think it can shoot 45LC in the .410 barrel -- I was never brave (stupid) enough to try. I favor the .22LR over the .22 Hornet just because of availability and cost of ammo.

tulsamal 02-21-2010 01:55 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

If you can find one, get a Springfield M6 22LR/.410 survival gun. It is the gun I most regret selling.
Yep, they are nice guns. Tough as a fence post. Or a T-post. I've got a US made one in the blue plastic case. .22 LR / .410. It gets used now and then around the farm since it is our only .410.

My 11 year old son loves to shoot it with .22 LR's. He will sit there quietly loading them one at a time until his box is empty. Don't speak or ask questions and the adults won't notice you are shooting all the .22 ammo up!

Gregg

Dawg 02-21-2010 05:41 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
I have owned a few of the Browning 22's and they break down into two pieces. They are light, accurate and fun to shoot. I had one made in Belgium, and two of the ones made in Japan. The finish on the Belgium one was much better, but functionally, they were the same as the Japanese models.

You just flick a switch under the receiver, and give the two halves a quarter turn (just a flick of the wrist) and you have a nice small package, that can be reassembled in a second.

Bill843 02-21-2010 09:19 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
I saw this topic right after it was posted, but didn't respond that fast because I had no direct experience.

The AR-7 has been a very cool concept for a long time. Unfortunately, most of the actual product examples work like crap.

The Papoose shoots well and still folds, and the Browning/Norincos shoot even better, but none of them will float.

The Springfield gun worked well enough, but used to be rather expensive for what you got. And it won't float either, but you did get a 410 as well as a 22LR with it though.


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Ag_man 02-21-2010 09:28 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
IIRC, none of the combo (centerfire rifle + shotgun) guns are still made today. I always thought that a single shot, say .30-06 + 12 ga, or .243 Win + 20 ga would be a good idea.

tulsamal 02-22-2010 12:28 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

IIRC, none of the combo (centerfire rifle + shotgun) guns are still made today.
http://www.savage24.com/

Lots of them for sale on gunbroker.

Gregg

CrufflerJJ 02-22-2010 08:54 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 2190679)
Im kind of like thinking along the lines of being so compact and easy to store. Sort of a check out at the range, clean and put in preps, only to be used if needed.

Anyone ever SELL on gunbroker ? Is it complicated? have a couple handfulls of small revolvers , not my prefered gun ( hand me downs from reletives deceased in Texas) I know at a gunshow, will not get much, was wondering how this site is ( yeah, I know, can spend the time researching, figured would ask here first)

I've got a Survival Arms AR-7 clone, bought back in 1994. It's so-so as a .22 rifle. Reliability is so-so, trigger pull is so-so. I've got a Marlin Papoose on my "to buy" list.

As to Gunbroker, I've used them to buy & sell for years. It's a good site.

Bill843 02-23-2010 04:09 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Just saw this posted elsewhere:

http://www.pakrifle.com/Pak-Rifle.html

.....kinda expensive, but I think it wins the "break-down" and "low weight" awards by a pretty wide margin.



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<SLV> 02-23-2010 08:27 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Bill843 - MANY thanks! Had never seen that. I think it is going on my short list (I'm a rimfire-a-holic).

http://www.pakrifle.com/sitebuilder/...em-375x255.jpg

<SLV> 02-23-2010 08:31 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
You can even get a fishing pole and reel that pack inside the Pak-Rifle!

http://www.impactguns.com/store/MVMW-PAK-FISH.html


Yikes! You can even send out your 10-year-old to dispatch a mountain lion with a Pak-Rifle!

http://www.pakrifle.com/sitebuilder/...ed-360x255.jpg

CrufflerJJ 02-23-2010 08:44 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill843 (Post 2194530)
Just saw this posted elsewhere:

http://www.pakrifle.com/Pak-Rifle.html

.....kinda expensive, but I think it wins the "break-down" and "low weight" awards by a pretty wide margin.

Neat little rifle. I'd feel better about owning one if it had a trigger guard, though. I wonder how long it will be in manufacture before the inevitable lawsuits start rolling in.

<SLV> 02-23-2010 08:49 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 2194673)
Neat little rifle. I'd feel better about owning one if it had a trigger guard, though. I wonder how long it will be in manufacture before the inevitable lawsuits start rolling in.

For some reason I thought the BATF required trigger guards and safeties. I think it'd be neat if the trigger was hinged and folded up.

CrufflerJJ 02-23-2010 11:53 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2194677)
For some reason I thought the BATF required trigger guards and safeties. I think it'd be neat if the trigger was hinged and folded up.

I don't know about BATFE requiring trigger guards/safeties. For importing weapons, sometimes you'll see a safety or "target" grips added to an otherwise perfectly good (small) firearm. This gives the weapon enough points to avoid "Saturday Night Special" designation, and allows it to be imported.

Nomen luni 02-23-2010 06:53 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
That pak rifle looks neat. Here's a vid of it:



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Ag_man 02-23-2010 07:39 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomen luni (Post 2195623)
That pak rifle looks neat. Here's a vid of it:

Wouldn't the utility of the pak rifle be increased if it was chambered in .22 mag, rather than .22LR? The somewhat larger cartridge wouldn't make that much difference in overall size and weight, IMO, but would make it much more effective in harvesting game.

I don't own anything in .22 mag, but think it is an under utilized caliber.

tulsamal 02-23-2010 11:54 PM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
I'm not convinced the Pak rifle offers an advantage over the SA M6 style rifle. The Pak only fires .22 LR. The M6 can fire either .22 LR or .410. It looks to me like the M6 is faster to reload as well. And the M6 can fold in half and slide into a half length carry holster. You pull it out, drop in two rounds, snap it closed, and start shooting. No "take it out and put it together" stuff to do. And MSRP is over $400?! I think I paid $170 for my M6 at the Tulsa Gun Show years ago when it was brand new!!

I know, the M6 isn't being made anymore but I bet you can find them on gunbroker.

Gregg

<SLV> 02-24-2010 08:22 AM

Re: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22lr)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tulsamal (Post 2196070)
I'm not convinced the Pak rifle offers an advantage over the SA M6 style rifle. The Pak only fires .22 LR. The M6 can fire either .22 LR or .410. It looks to me like the M6 is faster to reload as well. And the M6 can fold in half and slide into a half length carry holster. You pull it out, drop in two rounds, snap it closed, and start shooting. No "take it out and put it together" stuff to do. And MSRP is over $400?! I think I paid $170 for my M6 at the Tulsa Gun Show years ago when it was brand new!!

I know, the M6 isn't being made anymore but I bet you can find them on gunbroker.

Gregg

Price is about the same (or more) for an M6 nowadays. The thing that makes the pak rifle so attractive is the 15 ounce weight! The M6 weighed several pounds IIRC.


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